Should L.D.S. support rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple?


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Do you support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple?  

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  1. 1. Do you support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple by Jews... and for Jews?

    • Yes..... every word in Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 must come to pass.
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    • No..... this could cause a war in the Middle East.... and each human life is a temple potentially for the Holy Spirit.
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    • Yes
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    • No
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    • I am not certain.... but I am going to research this question further.
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I just made a comment over in another forum that I would love to have Latter day Saints praying about and thinking about partly because the discussion has gone somewhat viral.

 

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I totally agree with you on these points!
 
I actually feel that somebody assisting the nation of Israel to build at least one........ but perhaps two Jewish temples is necessary to set in motion the series of events that will lead to Zechariah chapter fourteen happening literally.
 
And for the record...... I personally plead nearly total IGNORANCE when it comes to
figuring out the difference between the allegorical meaning in scriptures vs the literal aspects
of those same predictions.
 
For example..... perhaps the present division of the nation of Israel into vaccinated vs unvaccinated may somehow
be a major fulfillment of Zechariah chapter fourteen verses three and four.... (at least in the sense of setting the stage
for the raising up of a legitimate Elijah and Moshiach ben Ephrayim and / or Cyrus type??????
 
 
...... "Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south." (Zechariah 14:3,4)
 
But what may be even more important is assisting Israel to fulfill Ezekiel chapter forty seven that will literally transform the economy and the environment of Israel and several of Israel's neighbouring nations.
 
I began the following topic back on February 10, 2013...... only six months after I joined politicalforum .com.
 
"Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?"
 
 
" Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?"

 

" Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?"

 
 
There is evidence that indicates that many Jewish scholars are thinking seriously along these lines anyway?!
 

Sanhedrin to Trump-Putin: Fulfill Cyrus-like role in Jerusalem

With the two top world leaders supporting Jewish right to Jerusalem, Sanhedrin asks that they build Third Temple.

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I am looking for a Latter day Saint Prophet or Prophetess to act as a co-author

with me for a book or two or three that is in my head?

Back in 2012 a woman gave me a personal prophecy that "your spirit is blessed with the authority to destroy chaos" (Mrs. Edie Reno)

I am more than ninety percent certain that Ms. Edie Reno is probably a Latter day Saint prophetess who

does outreach through the internet.

In 2015 a Pentecostal Prophetess gave me another unusual prophecy that sure fits with what my Latter day Saint friends feel

I am being led to do over the coming years.

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Pastor /////.... //////... Sandra... in a way I wish to audition for a role elaborated on by Mr. Eporu Ronald Alfred.


Scroll down to post #6 here....... to see his writing on a modern political Cyrus.....

 

"Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?"

 

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Sandra Johnston:

"U don't need to audition Dennis. U have the mantle of Cyrus and Canada is a type of new Jerusalem!"

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.....Sandra... is also willing to play out this role...... and she has many advantages over me.... One of them being that she is a published author and has her Ph. D.

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Sandra Johnston:


"God has given u a great heart for the Jewish people.
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They will run to u for safety."

 

In a way I already write several books each year online but they are unpublished and

they are just part of my own personal outreach through the internet to attempt to inspire several people to

begin to take steps closer to their accepting Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as their Savior but also.....

I also am attempting to work on bringing Christians together to cooperate as opposed to competing with each other.....

I do feel that Latter day Saints have a sincere desire to be true leaders in the fulfillment of a promise made by Jesus.  In his listening audience as Jesus spoke these words there were some people who would be termed Messianic Jewish... some would be Messianic Gentile and some would be Orthodox Jewish and there would be representatives from some other groups hear him say these words:

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
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My apologies for dumping all of this on you... but I believe that the question by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus of the Scribes and Pharisees.....

"is it lawful on the Sabbath day to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill" indicates that I personally have a personal responsibility to

move quickly... .when I feel that lives are at stake???!!!!

 

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Is there anybody reading this message who has contacts with both near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai as well as with Prophet Robin Bullock?
 
Dr. Zadai, (I think it was back in the 1980's or 1990's met a demon named "Raspid" that the guy who had this demon did not want to get exorcized of....... because Raspid got him women)!!!!!!!!! .... Anyway.... please imagine Prophet Robin Bullock in something of a "Jethro Bodine Movie producer at your service" mind set...... and both Dr. Zadai and Prophet Robin Bullock attempt to exorcise me.... DennisTate.......
...... possibly from Raspid based the obvious fact that my wife deserves a far, far, far, far, far ,far better husband than me!!!!!!
 
So the possible exorcism of Raspid from me... sets Dr. Zadai and Prophet Robin Bullock and perhaps Sister Ruth up for a ministry in Israel based on.......

 

 

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...... "FOR THE RECORD THE EARTHQUAKE PREDICTED FOR JERUSALEM COULD BE A METAPHOR FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE BEING DIVIDED BETWEEN VACCINATED VS UNVACCINATED????????????
 
SO PERHAPS A LOT MORE CAN TAKE PLACE IN 2021 THAN WE MIGHT TEND TO IMAGINE!!!!????"

 

 

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.... "In order for Zechariah chapter fourteen to occur there needs to be at least one Jewish temple in Israel.....
(but perhaps even three because there could be one over the Gihon Spring..... one centered several kilometers outside Jerusalem to correspond with the Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight temple complex.... and one wherever the Jerusalem Sanhedrin chooses...... (which might not be the Gihon Spring site that I personally prefer))........
 
SO THE SECOND COMING OF MESSIAH YESHUA JESUS TO THIS EARTH IS BEING DELAYED BY CHRISTIANS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY THAT MUST BE FINISHED BEFORE ZECHARIAH CHAPTER FOURTEEN CAN EVEN TAKE PLACE....... 'Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)
 
There also needs to be at least one if not two or three volunteer metaphorical "goats" who are very different from Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in that they recognize their own flaws in essentially all ten commandments.......
they are "goats" not a perfect Passover Lamb as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus was but.....
they are volunteers who do recognize how difficult a role a modern Yom Kippur goat could really be..... "

 

 

 
 
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A NEWSLETTER TO LOVERS OF ZION AND ISRAEL IN THE WORLD

TISHA B’AV, 5781, THE TEMPLE MOUNT FAITHFUL MOVEMENT CONDUCTED AN EXCITING MARCH TO THE HOLY TEMPLE MOUNT IN JERUSALEM AS INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATION OF THE EPIDEMIC.  IT WAS A UNIQUE AND EXCITING MARCH.  DESPITE MUSLIM RIOTS THAT TRIED TO PREVENT THE MARCH, THE FAITHFUL MARCHED UP TO THE LOCATION OF THE THIRD HOLY TEMPLE SOON TO BE BUILT.  FOR THE FIRST TIME AND WHILE STANDING ON THE HOLY TEMPLE MOUNT, THE FAITHFUL MEMBERS AND 1,700 OTHER JEWS INCLUDING MEMBERS OF THE KNESSET (PARLIAMENT) PRAYED THE MORNING PRAYERS OF TISHA B’AV AND ENDED BY SINGING ISRAEL’S NATIONAL ANTHEM, “HA TIKVAH” (“THE HOPE”).  THESE WERE MAJOR STEPS OF THE FAITHFUL MOVEMENT TOWARDS THE REBUILDING OF THE HOLY TEMPLE.  THE CHAIRMAN, GERSHON SALOMON, CALLED TO BUILD THE THIRD HOLY TEMPLE WITH NO DELAY!

Tisha B’Av is the day of the destruction of the First Holy Temple in the year 586 BCE and the Second Temple in the year 70 CE.  Tisha B’Av is a fast day and a major day of mourning.  For almost 1,900 years, the Jewish people have been mourning the destruction of both Holy Temples each of which occurred on the same day of the year, the 9th day of the Hebrew month of Av, which included the destruction of the kingdom of Israel in both cases.
Like every year, everyone in Israel sat on the ground and mourned the major disasters while reading the entire Book of Lamentations.

Tisha B’Av, 5781, the Temple Mount Faithful Movement conducted an exciting march to the Holy Temple Mount in Jerusalem as individuals because of the limitation of the epidemic.  It was a unique and exciting march.  Despite Muslim riots that tried to prevent the march, the Faithful marched up to the location of the Third Holy Temple soon to be built.  For the first time and while standing on the Holy Temple Mount, the Faithful members and 1,700 other Jews including members of the Knesset (Parliament) prayed the morning prayers of Tisha B’Av and ended by singing Israel’s national anthem, “Ha Tikvah” (“The Hope”).  These were major steps of the Faithful Movement towards the rebuilding of the Holy Temple on the Holy Temple Mount.  Chairman, Gershon Salomon, called to build the Third Holy Temple with no delay!

When the Faithful members marched as individuals to the Holy Temple Mount, on Tisha B’Av, the 9th day of the Hebrew month of Av, 5781, July 18, 2021, the deep feeling was that we are living in a major time of comfort and that the building of the Third Holy Temple is soon to come.  The members of the Faithful Movement could see the great redemptional revolution that has occurred in Biblical Jerusalem since Jerusalem was liberated by the G-D of Israel and His Israeli forces in 1967.  We could feel the excitement inside the walls of the Old City and in the streets of Jerusalem where boys and girls play in the streets of the city exactly as the prophet Zechariah and other prophets prophesied:

“And the word of the LORD of hosts came, saying, ‘Thus says the LORD of hosts: I am jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I am jealous for her with great wrath’.  Thus says the LORD: ‘I have returned to Zion and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem, and Jerusalem shall be called the faithful city, and the mountain of the LORD of hosts, the holy mountain.’  Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘Old men and old women shall again sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each with staff in hand because of great age.  And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in its streets.’  Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘If it is marvelous in the sight of the remnant of this people in those days, should it also be marvelous in my sight, declares the LORD of hosts?’  Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘Behold, I will save my people from the east country and from the west country, and I will bring them to dwell in the midst of Jerusalem.  And they shall be my people, and I will be their G-d, in faithfulness and in righteousness.’  Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘Let your hands be strong, you who in these days have been hearing these words from the mouth of the prophets who were present on the day that the foundation of the house of the LORD of hosts was laid, that the temple might be built.’ ”  Zechariah 8:1-9

Both Isaiah and Zechariah prophesied the destruction of the Temples, Jerusalem, and the Land of Israel, but at the same time they prophesied prophecies of comfort, redemption of the people and the Land of Israel, and the building of the Third Holy Temple.  Both prophesied of the time in which we are now living, the end times, and the major redemption.

The focus of all these end-time prophecies is the redemption of the people and the Land of Israel, the regathering of the people to the Land of Israel, the rebuilding of the Temple, and the coming of Messiah ben David to Jerusalem.
 
The exciting prayers of Rachel, one of the two mothers of the people of Israel, were answered by the G-D of Israel:

“Thus says the LORD: “A voice is heard in Ramah, lamentation and bitter weeping.  Rachel is weeping for her children; she refuses to be comforted for her children, because they are no more.”  Thus says the LORD: “Keep your voice from weeping, and your eyes from tears, for there is a reward for your work, declares the LORD, and they shall come back from the land of the enemy.  There is hope for your future, declares the LORD, and your children shall come back to their own country.”  Jeremiah 31:15-17

In 1948, and even earlier, these prayers of our mother, the prophets, and the people of Israel started to be answered by the G-D of Israel in front of the eyes of all the nations.  Like a fast stream of water, the children of Rachel and Leah began to be regathered to the Land of Israel.  It was an exciting godly event of the rebirth of the people and the Land of Israel.  Like it was prophesied, the children of Israel were regathered on wings of eagles, the Israeli airplanes.  Waste cities and villages in the Land were rebuilt and small Israeli children were again playing in the streets of all the Land, as the prophet Zechariah prophesied (Zechariah 8:1-5)

The climax of this time is, indeed, the exciting times in which we are now living that were prophesied by the prophets Isaiah and Micah:

"And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established on the top of the mountains and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow to it.  And many people shall go and say, 'Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the G-D of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths; for from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the Word of the LORD from Jerusalem'.  And He shall judge among the nations and shall decide for many people:  and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, nor shall they learn war any more...But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of Hosts has spoken it.”  Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-4

The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement carries this key event of the prophets of Isaiah and Micah as the focus of her godly campaign.  The redemption of Israel and the godly end-time world revolution will not come to pass until the House of G-D, the Third Holy Temple, is built.  We heard the call of G-D to make this vision a reality in our lifetime and no longer just a dream of the exile.  The Faithful Movement has answered this call over the past 54 years since the liberation of the Holy Temple Mount and Biblical Jerusalem by the soldiers of the G-D of Israel and His Israeli forces.

This campaign will not stop until this last days’ vision comes to pass.  We know that time is short, but nothing can stop the Faithful Movement from fulfilling this vision in our lifetime.  Nothing can stop the vessel of the G-D of Israel and the universe, the Faithful Movement, from making it a reality in the lifetime of our generation.

On Tisha B’Av this year, the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement took an important step towards this fulfillment.  When the members of the Faithful Movement together with many other Israelis and the Knesset members worshipped and prayed on the morning of this Tisha B’Av on the Holy Temple Mount and sang “Ha Tikvah”, we felt the presence of the G-D of Israel all over the Temple Mount, like He was calling us: ‘Rebuild My House, My Temple, with no more delay.  I am so eager to dwell among you’.  “Build Me a temple that I may dwell among you” Exodus 25:8.  For almost 2,000 years, the G-D and the people of Israel yearned and prayed to see this event on the Holy Temple Mount.  The exciting and prayerful morning that we experienced on the Holy Temple Mount on this Tisha B’Av 2021 was another step in making this call of G-D to His people Israel a reality.

On this special morning of Tisha B’Av on the Holy Temple Mount, we felt that another promise of G-D was fulfilled.  The G-D of Israel promised that all the fasts of the destructions would become days of joy:

”And the word of the LORD of hosts came to me, saying, ‘Thus says the LORD of hosts: The fast of the fourth month and the fast of the fifth and the fast of the seventh and the fast of the tenth shall be to the house of Judah seasons of joy and gladness and cheerful feasts.  Therefore, love truth and peace’.  Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘Peoples shall yet come, even the inhabitants of many cities.  The inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying, Let us go at once to entreat the favor of the LORD and to seek the LORD of hosts; I myself am going.  Many peoples and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the LORD.’  Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, Let us go with you, for we have heard that G-d is with you.’ ”  Zechariah 8:18-23

One day, when the history of these exciting godly days of redemption that we experience right now are recorded, this unique and exciting end-time event on the Holy Temple Mount on Tisha B’Av will be on the forefront and considered the first step and as a great step towards the rebuilding of the end-time Temple, the Third Holy Temple.  Everyone in Israel and the Lovers of Zion and Israel in the world are called by the Faithful Movement to make it a reality in our lifetime.

IN THE ALMIGHTY G-D OF ISRAEL WE TRUST!!

                                                          Earnest Call to Lovers of Israel and Zion in the World
                                                                URGENT CRISIS:  PLEASE HELP US NOW!!!

A ‘SHOFAR CALL’ TO ALL THE FRIENDS AND LOVERS OF ZION, ISRAEL, AND THE FAITHFUL MOVEMENT: “THE LORD ROARS OUT OF ZION AND UTTERS HIS VOICE FROM JERUSALEM: THE TIME TO ‘FAVOR ZION’ REALLY IS AT HAND!!”

DEAREST FRIENDS, WE NEED YOUR GENEROUS DONATION RESPONSE QUICKLY!!  A “Shofar Call” to all the Friends and Lovers of Zion, Israel and the Faithful Movement: “THE LORD ROARS OUT OF ZION AND UTTERS HIS VOICE FROM JERUSALEM…THE TIME TO ‘FAVOR ZION’ REALLY IS AT HAND!!” Joel 3:16; Psalm 102:13  The Third Holy Temple is SOON to be built; no obstacle will stop the zeal of the G-D of Israel from dwelling in HIS HOLY HOUSE on HIS HOLY MOUNTAIN in Jerusalem!
 
Dear Friends, our upcoming campaign and work lacks the necessary funds to conduct our most holy work and to overcome the obstacles that are coming from outside Israel and inside Israel before the rebuilding of the Holy Temple Mount and Jerusalem.  PLEASE CONSIDER SPECIAL GIFTS AT THIS CRITICAL HOUR, AND CONTINUED DONATIONS, IF POSSIBLE, TO HELP THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND LAND OF ISRAEL FAITHFUL MOVEMENT fulfill the call of the LORD: “Build Me a temple that I may dwell among you” Exodus 25:8.  PLEASE PARTNER WITH THE TEMPLE MOUNT FAITHFUL.  Your kind and generous donations at this crucial time will be received with deep appreciation, immense joy, and unequaled thanksgiving!

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I've been researching and praying about the question of the rebuilding of at least one Jewish Temple in Israel since the 1970's and as of today, August 1, 2021 I am thinking that the key is to actually build the Jewish people THREE TEMPLES..... and approach each temple as a STAGE in which Orthodox Jews must enact out specific roles that they understand....... (and although I have been studying this question for over four decades I am like a two year old child when it comes to any and all specific questions related to what those Orthodox Jews must specifically do to fulfill all that Moses, King David, the Major Prophets and the Minor Prophets have instructed the Orthodox Jewish community to accomplish so that Zechariah chapter fourteen will be fulfilled and Moshiach ben David will be here)?

I believe that President Donald J. Trump has the courage and the love for the Jewish people to follow through with the request by the Jerusalem SanHedrin that he and President Putin should audition for the role of a modern King Cyrus or even two competing possible King Cyrus's!?  

The faculty and student body at Brigham Young University in Israel are in a special position to play the role of Ambassador and leaders in the Noahide Outreach to all the nations of the earth.  Because Latter day Saints have very different teachings on the State of The Dead than most denominations of Christianity have you Latter day Saints are perfect to become leaders in the Noahide Movement.  

You Latter day Saints do not consider me, Dennis Tate, to be condemned to hell due to my not fully accepting all that the L.D.S. Elders and Sisters taught me and the L.D.S. Elders and Sisters and other members can actually understand why I feel called to some sort of outreach to the Jewish people which would make my becoming a full fledged LDS somewhat complicated.  I feel that I must put my calling toward the Jewish community first and foremost in my life.

I have concluded after three years of studying with L.D.S. Elders and Sisters that you Latter day Saints are like modern RECHABITES who are on a special mission for the G-d of Abraham but like the Rechabites certain aspects of your mission are challenging for some of us who already feel that we also have a unique mission in life that we must accomplish.

 

Because you Latter day Saints have hope for the deceased in the afterlife.....

you are perfect to act out the role of Ambassadors for the Temple Mount Faithful Movement and for the Orthodox Jewish Community who support the building of at least one if not two or more Jewish Temples in Israel.  

 

At this time the three major locations proposed for Jewish Temples in Israel are ;

1.  near the Gihon Spring a considerable distance from either  the Dome of the Rock or the Al Aqsa Mosque

2. on top of the Temple Mount but a significant distance away from the Dome of the Rock or the Al Aqsa Mosque

3.  several kilometers outside Jerusalem for the central part of the Ezekiel Temple Complex as explained in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight.

A man from Russia has done what appears to me as a brilliant job of illustrating many of the specifics for the Ezekiel Temple complex.  

https://galgal.dreamwidth.org/tag/third+temple

 

Chapter forty one of Gospel Principles illustrates why you Latter day Saints may well be the perfect group to assist the Temple Mount Faithful to accomplish their goals?

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng

Chapter 41

The Postmortal Spirit World

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The spirits are classified according to the purity of their lives and their obedience to the will of the Lord while on earth. The righteous and the wicked are separated (see 1 Nephi 15:28–30), but the spirits may progress as they learn gospel principles and live in accordance with them. The spirits in paradise can teach the spirits in prison (see D&C 138).

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This guy sounds good but a truly brilliant archeologist disagreed with him.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_L._Martin

 

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In his 1999 book The Temples that Jerusalem Forgot, Martin argued that the Haram al-Sharif is not the location of the last Temple. This was significant given his relationship with Herbert W. Armstrong whose editorial in The Plain Truth magazine was cited by Denis Michael Rohan as a reason for setting fire to the Al Aqsa mosque during the 1960s.

The basis of this work began with Martin's first visit to Jerusalem in 1961 when he first met Benjamin Mazar and later his son Ory Mazar, who informed him of his belief that the Temples of Solomon and Zerubbabel were located on the Ophel mound to the north of the original Mount Zion on the southeast ridge. In a 1996 draft report to support this theory, Martin wrote, "I was then under the impression that Simon the Hasmonean (along with Herod a century later) moved the Temple from the Ophel mound to the Dome of the Rock area." However, after studying the words of Josephus concerning the Temple of Herod the Great, which was reported to be in the same general area of the former Temples, he then read the account of Eleazar who led the final contingent of Jewish resistance to the Romans at Masada which stated that the Roman fortress was the only structure left by 73 C.E.. "With this key in mind, I came to the conclusion in 1997 that all the Temples were indeed located on the Ophel mound over the area of the Gihon Spring."[4] From these conclusions, Martin produced his book in which he asserted that the Temples of Jerusalem were located over the Gihon Spring and not over the Dome of the Rock. He wrote, "What has been amazing to me is the vast amount of Jewish, Muslim, and Christian records that remain available from the first to the sixteenth centuries that clearly vindicate the conclusions that I have reached in this book of research."

 

 

There are people who might just be promoting the incorrect location for the Temple of King Solomon perhaps due to their not actually wanting to see a Jerusalem Third Temple actually constructed??????

 

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Do Latter day Saints believe that the following must be fulfilled only metaphorically..... or also literally.....  at some point in time over the coming several centuries?

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/ps/51?lang=eng

17 The asacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a bcontrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

18 Do good in thy good apleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.

19 Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar.

 

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In my opinion the student body and faculty at Brigham Young University in Israel are in an interesting position to do a series of films that 

tends to bring Jews and Latter day Saints up to a much higher level of win - win - win - win - win cooperation and collaboration on many aspects

of education not to mention boosting the Israeli, USA and world economy so that another 1929, a Bear Market is avoided.  One idea that is on my mind would be for a hundred or more students and / or faculty in Jerusalem to form a film production company and / or kibbutz and / or cooperative and....... they approach near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava with an offer that may be extremely interesting to him.  

 

In America as well as in Israel there is a theory that a certain political leader may be involved in a major fulfillment of Isaiah chapter forty five but..... that would imply that this political leader does not really know the G-d of Abraham / HaShem and / or Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - Issa all that well at all.  

 

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/45?lang=eng

 

4 For Jacob my aservant’s sake, and Israel mine belect, I have even ccalled thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5  aI am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

I personally was shown what I consider to be nothing less than a checkmate move that could give the Jewish people at least one but maybe two or thee Jewish temples in Israel...... in which they do their best to fulfill all that is predicted in the Law of Moses, the Psalms and even in the major and minor prophets, (Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight for an obvious example).

I believe that the key is perhaps for Latter day Saint film production companies and / or cooperatives and / or cooperatives to treat one or two or even three or more Jewish temples as STAGES ... on which is enacted the fulfillment of prophecies that only the Levites can perform.......... so........ in a way these LDS film production companies or cooperatives would be playing a role somewhat  like Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Yosef as predicted in Jewish apocalyptic literature.  

https://britam.org/messiah.html

 

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Yair Davidiy:
Since the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 the USA has often helped protect the State of Israel from destruction. The USA has not however really helped Israel expand her borders. On the contrary the USA has often forced Israel to give up territories it had liberated and to constrict her borders, but maybe that will change. Maybe the USA and Britain will help Israel expand her borders in the future as the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is supposed to do. Ingathers the Exiles “Kol HaTor” says [2.40] “His [i.e. Joseph’s] bow abode in strength” (Genesis 49;24). This should be an important principle for us. We have to stand obstinately strong in the holy work of gathering in the exiles which is the task of the first redeemer [i.e. of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]. Purifies the Land of Israel “Kol HaTor” says [2.41] “And Joseph was governor over the land” (Genesis 42;6). This means he will overcome all the forces of impurity. This is one of the great tasks of the First Redeemer [of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]: to extirpate the spirit of impurity from the country by means of settling the Holy Land. When the Holy Land is not settled [with Israelites] a spirit of impurity settles over it. [When the Holy Land is settled with Israelites the Land becomes pure]. Joshua ben Nun Was a Forerunner “Kol HaTor” says [2.44]

The First Redeemer [MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH] fights against Amalek with total warfare…[he fights against the forces of anti-Semitism]. This was the task of Joshua ben Nun who was [a forerunner and ancestor of] the Messiah Son of Joseph. Aroused by Elijah “Kol HaTor” says [2.71] “Behold I will send you my prophet Elijah…and he will return the hearts of the fathers to their sons” (Malachi 4). One of the tasks of Elijah is to arouse the spirit of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Comment:

[Malachi 4:5] BEHOLD, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD: [Malachi 4:6] AND HE SHALL TURN THE HEART OF THE FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN, AND THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS, LEST I COME AND SMITE THE EARTH WITH A CURSE.

 

Please visualize near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava, myself, and several others volunteering and auditioning for our interpretation of the role of a modern Elijah and / or a possible "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" in order to attempt to DIVERT NEGATIVE ATTENTION from the major political leader who is thought of by many in both the USA as well as Israel as being like a modern Cyrus.  Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian has somewhat explained the idea that the modern Cyrus as well as the modern Moshiach ben Ephrayim could perhaps be two separate individuals??????

One variation of this would be to ask his youngest son to choose who he feels should perform this function..... that is related to diverting negative attention away from his dad?

Here is necessary background information to this idea....

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101679/jewish/The-Personality-of-Mashiach.htm

The Personality of Mashiach

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As a faithful shepherd he already cares so much about his people that he volunteered to suffer all kinds of agonies to assure that not a single Jew of all times will be lost.20

Mashiach shall meditate on the Torah21 and be preoccupied with mitzvot. He shall teach all the Jewish people and instruct them in the way of G‑d. He will prevail upon Israel to follow and observe the Torah, repair its breaches, and fight the battles of G‑d.22

Mashiach will reveal altogether new insights, making manifest the hidden mysteries of the Torah,23 to the point that “all the Torah learned in the present world will be vain compared to the Torah of Mashiach.”24

Though Mashiach comes first and foremost to Israel, all the nations will recognize his wisdom and sublimity and submit to his rule.25 He will guide and instruct them as well.26

There is no need for Mashiach to perform signs and wonders to prove himself.27 Nonetheless, he will do so.28

 

 

 

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I personally believe that the basic idea of Latter day Saints discussing assisting the Jewish people to build at least one if not two or three or even four Jewish temples should be connected with a massive plan to turn deserts green not only in Israel but also in Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Algeria, Dubai and even in California and Australia.

 

 

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/35?lang=eng

 

1 The wilderness and the asolitary place shall be bglad for cthem; and the ddesert shall rejoice, and eblossom as the rose.

2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of aLebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the bglory of the Lord, and the excellency of our God.

3  Strengthen ye the aweak hands, and confirm the bfeeble knees.

4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with avengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.

5 Then the aeyes of the bblind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

6 Then shall the lame man leap as an ahart, and the tongue of the dumb bsing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

7 And the aparched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the bhabitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.

 

I believe that a significant percentage of the Hollywood Film Industry is about to be transferred to Israel.... and Latter day Saints can play a major role in assisting that to happen.  

You Latter day Saints are going to be rewarded for the fact that you built the stage for the second season of The Chosen in Utah.... .and you allowed the film production team to use your facility in that important project.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_(TV_series)

 

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Filming[edit]

Season 1 was filmed over 60 days in Weatherford, Texas, and used the existing Capernaum Village, which offers film set rental and live experiences for tourists, to recreate the historical Capernaum. The filming was supplemented by a sound stage and visual effects.[18]

Season 2 moved filming to Utah's version of ancient Israel in Goshen, Utah County, where The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints built a replica Jerusalem movie set to film scenes for their Bible and Book of Mormon videos.[19] This marks the first time a production not affiliated with the LDS church has been granted access to film on this set.[20]

Season 2 was filmed during the COVID-19 pandemic, creating challenges for film production. 2,000 extras were used to film the Sermon on the Mount scene, all of whom were required to obtain a negative PCR test prior to filming. Following COVID-19 protocols cost the production of season 2 an additional $750,00

 

 

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The Prophet Joseph Smith has seriously impressed me by what he taught on the State of the Dead .....
In comparison to any other large branch of Christianity that I know of..... this article taken from his writings on the state of the dead
seems to be truly quite brilliant as well as accurate.
 
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" The spirits are classified according to the purity of their lives and their obedience to the will of the Lord while on earth. The righteous and the wicked are separated (see 1 Nephi 15:28–30), but the spirits may progress as they learn gospel principles and live in accordance with them. The spirits in paradise can teach the spirits in prison (see D&C 138). " (Gospel Principles chapter forty one)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng

 
Setting the stage for Latter day Saints to perhaps assist Israelis to
 
construct at least one but possibly two or three or even perhaps four Jewish temples
in various locations in Israel.
 
Some Jews favour a Jerusalem Third Temple over the Gihon Spring
Many Jews favour a Jerusalem Third Temple on top of the Temple Mount some distance from either the Dome of the Rock and /or the Al Aqsa Mosque.
Some Jewish scholars prefer the idea of building an Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex several kilometers outside Jerusalem to correspond with the description in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight.

 
"Reincarnation of Cain and Abel as Moses and Jethro?"
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Considering that the world is facing a possible Bear Market, another 1929, it may be a good idea to discuss ways to boost the world economy and methods that begin in Israel might just have a special value to our Creator.  




After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green...

Please imagine two hundred million male Chinese, Mongolian and eastern Russia actors and students of the English language playing the role of an army of two hundred million horsemen in an artistic version of The Book of Revelation?????

Following is only one possible direction to take this film series in..... this is one possible opening gambit to finance turning many deserts in the Middle East green.....

Please imagine Prophet Barry Wunsch as a modern Prophet Daniel........
and now ask yourself.... what needs to be done before Zechariah chapter fourteen comes to pass????

....... THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS ME ATTEMPTING TO SET UP PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP AS THE NINETEENTH PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR HIS CALLING TO FULFILL EVERY WORD OF ISAIAH CHAPTER FORTY FIVE! (I would suggest that President Trump ask the State of Utah to create a "Utah Volunteerism Hour" and / or Dollar.... .and if they will do this I have a plan to use it to pay off the national debts of the USA, Canada, Australia and Israel..... just for starters)!

(To the degree that there may be an error in what I write... .sorry.... I am human and make lots of errors.. .but this is the best that I could do on these topics at this time, the world economy could go into a Bear Market, another 1929 and out of the box options to prevent this from happening need to be discussed. I like the idea of a film production cooperative / kibbutz of nine point three million Israelis and I have some ideas that could give thousands of them reality film acting roles playing the role of themselves)!

Setting the stage for Latter day Saints to perhaps assist Israelis to

construct at least one but possibly two or three or even perhaps four Jewish temples
in various locations in Israel.

Some Jews favour a Jerusalem Third Temple over the Gihon Spring
Many Jews favour a Jerusalem Third Temple on top of the Temple Mount some distance from either the Dome of the Rock and /or the Al Aqsa Mosque.
Some Jewish scholars prefer the idea of building an Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex several kilometers outside Jerusalem to correspond with the description in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight.
"Reincarnation of Cain and Abel as Moses and Jethro?"
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